Progress
To All AllianceNet Teammates,
I want to report some exciting news for you regarding our AllianceNet business model!Yesterday, our AllianceNet Board and all qualified Platinum’s and above met via teleconference and voted in a unanimous decision to accept a proposal to revamp our AllianceNet Business School “training system.” Here are some bullet points of the new proposal:
Beginning December 1, 2004, we reducing the cost of our Business School from $88.00 to $58.00 monthly or $29.00 every two weeks. This is a savings to all teammates of $30.00 per month. We will now have a Web fee only of $58.00 or $29.00 every two weeks.
We have eliminated any payout on our system. We want to be above reproach and with the negative about “systems” in this industry we felt the need to become a standard bearer with regard to this issue.
Each week our Personal Growth & Development cd’s will be posted on our Web Site in an MP3 format for you to listen to or download at your leisure. Instructions will be given for downloading if you do not have the proper Windows format. You will now have the capability to “burn” cd’s on your home computer! Everyone either has a computer or access to one so we are excited about this bold and aggressive decision. A two week time lag will be given for you to listen to or burn a copy of the cd’s of the week before they are taken down to post the next ones.
Also, if you wish, you will able to continue to place an order for hard copies of any cd through our Web Site. These items will be mailed to you including shipping and handling.
We are eliminating the Book of the Month! In the future, our Web Site will have a Book of the Month suggestion for you to purchase from one of our partner stores, Barnes & Noble.
We are also eliminating the present Web Site member fee participation of $20.00 beginning December 1, 2004. We are going to encourage those teammates to become full fledge members of our site and with the $30.00 cost reduction we feel that this is now possible. Make sure to encourage these teammates to sign up for the new $29.00 cost every two weeks for all the information!
We are proud of this great strategy as it shows the heart of our leadership, their commitment to do the right thing, and their desire to eliminate costs so as to make our “training system” affordable to everyone. As we pay for our Web Site and eliminate debt over the next two years we are hopeful that we can reduce our cost even further.
I hope you are excited about this as we all are. Stay focused, continue buying our great products and promote these products to all your teammates.
I look forward to seeing you in January at our four One Day Conventions if not before.
Best regards,
Joe Land
What a fantastic bit of news from the AlianceNet organization! This is the kind f progress that I like to see. No more piles of unmarketable CDs lining your garage. No more behind-schedule libraries of books you'll never read. An SOS realizes that people don't like this, so they fix it. And how? By utilizing the very web industry that made Quixtar great to begin with. Three cheers for ANS.
I can already see the list of complaints rolling in. "Well it should be free!" "60 bucks?! Highway robbery!" Systems are going to cost money, no matter how efficient you make them, folks. Get over it. I'd rather pay $30 less and not have to clutter my house with CDs and books than the previous plan of business. Quit complaining, you hozers.
16 Comments:
Sounds like a step in the right direction to me
9:08 PM
Can you explain what you get for $58/month? Land also mentioned that they eliminated the "pay out". Does Land want us to believe that there is no profit in the $58/month fee?
9:22 AM
Hey Ty, I have some of the same questions as you probably. I made a post about the letter over on my blogging section of my site at:
http://www.whataboutquixtar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073
iBlogO, good post, don't forget to call me a hozer. (grin)
11:35 AM
You guys are both hozers :P
Here's what I have to say to you:
I wouldn't doubt there's profit being made. But everything worthwhile, I believe, should turn a profit for those that made them available.
I don't care if Land is making money. I think he should be making a killing. So long as I'm getting exactly what I pay for and expect.
For the monthly fee, we get access to the website, which having paid for it in the past I know that it is a plethora of information. It's a tool in itself as it allows me to follow up on everything going on in AlianceNet. From who's talking to where and when. Changes in the system and online seminars.
With ANS's website, one can show the plan over the internet with live events and recorded events. On top of that, now all of the recorded conventions that would have been sent on CD will be online in MP3 format. Frankly, I find that to be awesome.
2:19 PM
iblogo, what is your opionion of Joe Land as a leader?
2:08 PM
As a leader, he certainly has the charisma to get whatever he wants done, done. I mean as a leader, that's important.
He does get what he wants done, done. He doesn't let a lot of things stop him. So he has the willpower to back up the charisma.
He has the knowledge, too. He's able to orchestrate large bodies of people, organizations if you will, into one solid task. That is the critical management skills in him.
I'm not trying to flatter him, I'm just pointing out the facts that would drive the point home that agreeable or not, he is a fantastic leader.
10:22 AM
Why put leader in italics? The implication is that he is not "fantastic" in other areas.
4:43 PM
Because I figured that I'd keep this topic to what you brought up, leadership. I didn't want to drag the conversation to anything more because I could give a damn if any one of you agree with his politics/ethics/beliefs.
It is irrelevant whether or not he is fantastic in any other venues and so I tried to stay focused.
9:41 PM
Please don't take my questions as being antagonistic because they're not, I just thought the use of italics was interesting.
Above you said "He's able to orchestrate large bodies of people, organizations if you will, into one solid task." Since the system teaches you to edify and follow all pins above you, is this "orchestration of people" truly a funtion of Joe Land's leadership or the system?
5:47 AM
Well what system are you talking about?
I've only seen the word "edify" twice in my life. Once in one of my mother's sermons about edifying God and the other time was in a particular chapter of Marks where the protagonist challenges a pin on the meaning of the word. Interestingly enough, the protagonist was wrong about the translation which leads me to believe the author had no idea what she was talking about but that's another story for another time.
I will say this about the system, the system or any system for that matter is only as good as its executioner. No, not the person who kills it. The person who sets it into action. So even if the literature of the system was so concisely written that a child could understand it, it would still take a good leader to set it into motion, and a greater leader to apply it to a larger body of people.
7:50 AM
Debating the definition of edify is a waste of of our time. But you're lucky if you've not heard it much because many Quixtar diamonds are very prone to using the word edify, whatever the definition. Were you an IBO during Joe's ProNet days?
The same goes for the success of those consuming vs. implementing the system. We are both aware of the actual success rate of IBO's, with or without a system. I agree with you 100% only people who actually do something will see results.
Do you think the knowledge being taught by the Alliance Net leaders is being applied by the group?
Would we expect to see more pins being awarded to Alliance Net IBO's than those trained by a non-Alliance Net system?
9:50 AM
I joined only during Quixtar and have never heard of ProNet.
Every time I go to a convention, I see a new face. I see a new pin. So I know it's working.
4:07 PM
I caution you against beleiving that new faces & new pins = working. There will always be new faces, otherwise the tools systems would not have lasted this long. What's more important is to recognize which "old faces" are no longer around. The January convention should be very interesting if you pay attention to who is not there.
ProNet is the Quixtar tools system that the Land's, Pici's, and Armour's were part of before they started AllianceNet. Based on your previous writings my guess is that your response will that you don't care about history, but this would be a mistake. Every piece of information you receive through AllianceNet is, in one way or another, influenced by the teachings of the ProNet system.
There is a large group of former Land IBO's who have been exactly where you are now. None of us will deny that we benefitted from the teachings of Joe Land and the system. But there is always more to the story, and this is where the problem lies. Unfortunately, even by the time you are no longer active in Quixtar, you may never be aware of the full story. I simply hope that by that time you haven't wasted too much time, money and, even more important, goals.
10:04 AM
Sounds to me like you've got yourself involved in a pretty uptight bunch of ungratefuls. If you benefitted, you benefitted. And if the ANS tool system is some sort of hybrid ProNet system, then I see no problem with the ProNet system, nor why you bring it up.
My take is, quit complaining. Again, if you benefitted, you benefitted and there's nothing more to say.
At the moment, I'm persuing my acting carreer and this project hasn't slowed me down in that one iota. So I don't know what to tell you.
11:47 AM
Your response is completely expected and understandable, like I said before, we've all been there. I am neither ungrateful nor complaining about anything and you'll find nothing of the sort in my comments above.
If only things were as black and white as "if you benefitted, you benefitted and there's nothing more to say." If that was the case then AllianceNet Solutions wouldn't even exist. Joe benefitted from ProNet but still left to form ANS. Your logic doesn't hold true when you simply look at your own leaders.
3:36 PM
I am neither ungrateful nor complaining about anything and you'll find nothing of the sort in my comments above.No, but you see, that's exactly what you are doing. You are complaining to me about Joe Land, challenging me about what I know about the man as if you know some dark and sinister secret. Well, by all means fill us in, but until you do (and you can perpetually prance around the issue and call it whatever you want) you are doing nothing short of sly complaining-directly or not.
If only things were as black and white as "if you benefitted, you benefitted and there's nothing more to say." If that was the case then AllianceNet Solutions wouldn't even exist. Joe benefitted from ProNet but still left to form ANS.Or maybe he had a shift in vision? Maybe he decided to go in a different direction. By YOUR logic, everyone who benefitted from school would become a professor. You're a moron.
Your logic doesn't hold true when you simply look at your own leaders.My logic makes perfect sense. You simply came in here with an axe to grind and your blade shattered. Enjoy your whatever it is you have. I'm happy where I'm at.
4:23 PM
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